Gut health, we've talked about it before. It's a BIG part of our overall health picture and daily detox, colon cleansing and lymphatic drainage are essential pieces to good gut health. When our gut is in good shape we experience a supported immune system, better sleep, hormone balance and bowel movements.
There are so many ways we can detox our bodies, and today's discussion revolves around castor oil packs.
Dr. Marisol Teijeiro, ND, also known as Queen of the Thrones, is my guest today. She has helped thousands of patients overcome digestive issues, reduce stress and take control of their toilet troubles. In today's episode we talk about
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Gut health, we've talked about it before. It's a BIG part of our overall health picture and daily detox, colon cleansing and lymphatic drainage are essential pieces to good gut health. When our gut is in good shape we experience a supported immune system, better sleep, hormone balance and bowel movements.
There are so many ways we can detox our bodies, and today's discussion revolves around castor oil packs.
Dr. Marisol Teijeiro, ND, also known as Queen of the Thrones, is my guest today. She has helped thousands of patients overcome digestive issues, reduce stress and take control of their toilet troubles. In today's episode we talk about
Connect with Dr. Marisol Teijeiro, ND on her Instagram page:
https://www.instagram.com/bewellqueen/
Suggested Resource Links:
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Hi, I'm Ivelisse Page and thanks for listening to the Believe Big podcast, the show where we take a deep dive into your healing with health experts, integrative practitioners, biblical faith leaders, and cancer thrivers from around the globe. Welcome to today's episode on the Believe Big podcast. My name is Ivelisse Page, and it's always an honor to spend this time with you. We heard from Dr. Halie on our detox episode about castor oil packs, and we got so many questions from our listeners that we thought we'd go straight to the queen of castor oil packs herself, Dr. Marisol Teijeiro. Dr. Marisol Teijeiro is an award winning author and Queen of Thrones line of products, including the original Heatless Less Mess, Reusable Castor Oil Pack that supports better sleep, better bowel movements, and feeling better hormonally. She went from the director of a brick and mortar detox and cleanse clinic for over a decade to CEO of her company that is helping people all over the world. She has also been featured on various TV programs, so welcome Dr. Teijeiro to the show.
Dr. Marisol:Thank you, Ivelisse. It's such an honor to be here, especially because well, what's near and dear to Believe Big's heart is near and dear to my heart, so it really is a true pleasure. Thank you for having me.
Ivelisse Page:We would love to start by asking you what is your favorite health tip?
Dr. Marisol:I would love to say something other than castor oil packs, but that would be a lie. So I'm just gonna say it's a castor oil pack because for me in my life, interesting in just having a conversation with one of my counselors, and I was talking to her and saying about, there's so many doctors who actually are the patients before they become the doctor. And that was very much my story. And it was the castor oil pack that took me from years of doing everything, trying everything, it not working, me feeling like a failure. Me finally deciding to go back to school to become a naturopathic doctor, even though I was recommended to do castor oil packs for over a decade, but thought they were stupid and woowoo. So I wanna let people know that if you think you've heard of castor oil pack and you've been told to do it, and you think it's may be stupid or woohoo, Don't worry. It's okay to think that way because I thought that way too. And look, now, I'm here on the proverbial soapbox telling everybody that this is like the number one health tip, and the biggest reason why is because castor oil packs integrate everything that you do, because you're not gonna do just a castor oil pack on its own. That's not the way healing works. But the castor oil pack helps every single thing that you do to work that much better. So if you can squeeze that much more out of a lemon, if you can get that much more out of a dollar, I don't know about you guys, but I was raised with those kind of values that, like we have abundance, but we don't waste either. And we do what we can with what we have. And from there, the universe and the divine brings us even greater still. So that's my mission in life. And that's the reason why I love, I do feel castor oil packs are the number one best health practice, to help everything that you're doing work better.
Ivelisse Page:Yeah, I agree. And I've been using'em since that first episode aired, and I've heard it through, I always say my grandmother was my first person who introduced me into integrative medicine. She would literally go in the backyard and grab a leaf from a orange tree to make a tea. All those wonderful therapies and treatments that they used to do that we've lost over the days. And actually castor oil packs are way back into biblical time. So they're such a powerful tool. And since I've been using it personally, I always like to try things first before I share and let people know. And I've really just, I now travel with it. I won't leave home without it.
Dr. Marisol:That is the first thing that I pack is my castor oil pack in my sleep mask. The cool thing is that we're not the only people who say this. There's thousands and thousands of testimonials and thousands of people who've been doing castor oil packs for years, and now the greatest thing is that we do have these clean castor oil packs that just make it that much easier for people to do. So now we have thousands and approaching on millions of more people just saying about how castor oil packs in their lives are game changers and they sleep better, they poop better, they feel better. And if you can improve those three metrics alone in our lives, I mean, we can conquer anything in the world. We can get better from anything. We can do anything better.
Ivelisse Page:Yeah. And what a great way without having to ingest anything or having to even take Calm or all these other things that you have ingest. We're gonna get into that now cuz here are some of the questions that we have gotten. So let's just start with the very beginning. So how do castor oil packs support daily detoxification, colon cleansing and the lymphatic drainage that you all talk about?
Dr. Marisol:So here's the big thing. As you said, I do believe grandmothers always do know best. And I was trained, I had a similar mother who loved to do it with food and loved to do it with like soups and rest and this and that. And early on I learned that whenever I wasn't feeling well, my mother would sit with me and try to calm me down. And she would be like calm, calm, calm. And that would be her way to of help me to get into the relaxed state and help me to heal. As I got older, I stopped listening to those things, and as I was recommended to do the castor oil pack, I thought the castor oil pack was weird and off. And I was like, no, I wouldn't do that. What I didn't realize the gift that my mother had given me way back then was that the body is genius, and if you understand that our bodies have the natural, innate ability to heal and wants to heal, your body wants to heal no matter what condition, problem, situation as deadly as it can be or as non offensive as it can be on either end of the spectrum, the body's always searching for that midpoint balance and to be able to be better. It's just who we are. We wanna bloom, we wanna grow. We don't wanna be sick in the dole drums near death. We don't wanna be on the other end, lifeless without want, and a motivation for living. We wanna be in that middle ground where we're motivated and we're happy. That's where our body seeks to be. That's a happy zone. Now life is about a balance between stress state and relaxed state. And when we are living in whatever year it is, here we are looking at our lives and they're more often than not, just completely in the sympathetic, in the stress state. So we're running from job to job, kids to kids. We're the taxi driver, we're in the sandwich generation. We're dealing with our parents dying, our children in high school. Like all of this adds to a really stressful life, problems in our marital relationships, with our children, even now environmentally, like our clothing that's toxic, our food that isn't as healthy as it could be. There's just so many things to worry about and so many things to stress about. And ultimately what I boiled it down to was that all disease, no matter what disease or process you're talking about, all comes down to one root cause and the very single root cause is stress. And many practitioners will debate me on this and say, no, it's hormone disbalance, or this or that, or immune disbalance or this or that, or there's toxin disbalance. Fine. They can say whatever they want to, but what I've come down to is that the hormonal balance was caused by stress. Some kind of stressor came, knocked off the hormones, the immune system. Some kind of stressor came, a virus, a bacteria, what have you, a cancer, and the immune system wasn't able to work and comply. Toxins, they were stressors to the body. The stress came first, right? And the body can't recognize whether the stress is chemical or whether the stress is emotional. We have a bad marital relationship, we're constantly fighting. It's not putting us into a relaxed state, then we're in constant stress. What happens? Our hormones disbalance. We fall out of love, depression, anxiety, and all these things. So I realized that it was stress that was the issue. And here I was training in Germany in detoxification medicine, something known as homotoxicology, so the study of toxins within the human system. And their entire premise was speaking about parasympathetic tone. About how the body's natural ability is to eliminate. The body's natural ability is to detox, which means to package up toxins or things that aren't serving us. They package it up into either water soluble or fat soluble. Then our body drains it, so moves it from compartment to compartment through the lymphatics, and then from there we eliminate it through colon cleansing, so we eliminate it out of the body. However, the big thing is that none of those work in the stressed state. And so our liver detox, our lymphatic drainage, our colon cleansing is all inhibited when we're living 24/7 in a stressed dominated pattern. And so the most important thing for those people seeking help, is to begin to focus on parasympathetic tone, they called it in Germany, which was the balance. Not just only parasympathetic because only parasympathetic that's death, right? You're just like, too calm. But it was the balance between the both, that beautiful middle zone between stressed and relaxed. And because when we're in the relaxed state, that is the divine time for liver detox, lymphatic drainage and colon cleansing to be operational. And so when I found castor oil packs and fell in love with them and started working with them and prescribing them, what people would tell me is that castor oil packs would drain the lymphs and the gallbladder. And then I was like, how does a castor oil pack do this, cause I have the same question. And then when I researched it, I was like, wait, they're wrong. They're going to the last step. But they're not taking into account what the real important part of the castor oil pack is, and why you actually need a pack and can't just get away with just putting the oil on your body, is that when you place the castor oil pack on your body, most often over the liver area, underneath the right ribcage or slightly on the ribcage, what you're doing is you're stimulating receptors on the skin that feed back up into the nervous system, stimulate the the vagus ventral nerve, which moves and shifts the body into the parasympathetic state. If you look at the medicine where, and where our medicine is moving into these days, everyone is speaking about the vagal nerve. Everyone is speaking about parasympathetic and relaxed state and truly no supplement can do it without taking boat loads of it, and then you having side effects from the supplements and no supplement can do it as rapidly. But castor oil packs, they shift you rapidly into the relaxed state cuz the biggest disease of our time is stress.
Ivelisse Page:Yes. And is there a certain time that you recommend people to do the packs? Is it best in the morning or is it best in the evening before bed? How long should one have one on? Is there certain amount of time?
Dr. Marisol:Yes. So going back again to the principles that I learned back in Germany. I mean, the Germans are so advanced, they were doing this work as well as working with conventional and complementary medicine, for cancer that was the reason that I was training in Germany because that was my area of focus in clinical practice for over a decade was cancer, autoimmunity, basically the most chronic diseases. Because I had a cleanse and detox center and those conditions require that. So in Germany being so forward thinking, they were doing everything based on how do we take advantage of the most opportunistic time. Let's not work against the body. Let's work with the body's natural timing and the body's natural timing for cleansing, detoxification, and drainage is when we sleep at night. So the very, very best time is starting somewhere around, like being in bed between the hours of 9:00 and 11:00 PM. And the big reason for that is because between the hours of 9:00 and 11:00 PM, it's the hour of the gallbladder in traditional Chinese medicine. And if we connect ancient traditional arts in medicine and conventional thought patterns and an understanding of the chronobiology of our body's natural clock, we combine those together, we realize that the gallbladder actually is what signals cleansing and detox and drainage in the organ system. And is very well connected, like almost like a brother to the vagal vental nerve because when the gallbladder dumps the bile, you know, that happens typically only when you ingest fatty foods. So when you have a meal, which is another time when typically you're shifted into the relaxed state, or when you place the oil, the castor oil on the skin with the compress, because that oil sensation on the skin also not only triggers a vagal ventral nerve, but triggers the gallbladder release. So wearing the pack at bedtime, going to sleep with it at night, aiming for people to go to bed between the hours of 9:00 and 11:00 PM at night, very important, that can signal the entire function and pathway and journey of the cleanse, the detox, which happens, between 1:00 and 3:00 AM. Our lymphatic drainage that occurs during the hour of the lung, from 3:00 to 5:00 AM, and then from 5:00 to 7:00 AM you're dealing with colon cleansing and elimination. So we wanna time it ideally then. Now, I do wanna say though, people can't get the pack done then, it is better to at least just do the pack. So even if you can't do it at that time, just do the pack because there will be benefit to doing the pack.
Ivelisse Page:And I'm one of those. I can't sleep with things on. For me, sleep is so important and it disrupts my sleep because I can feel it on me. And I know some people have no issues with that. So I actually do it first thing in the morning and I put the oil on, I put the pack on, but it's actually my time when I pray, and when I have my time of meditation. So it's that calming time as well. But interesting that you say that between 5:00 and 7:00 AM is the elimination time, cuz it helps me of course in the mornings as well to clear that out.
Dr. Marisol:What time do you wake up at Ivelisse?
Ivelisse Page:Usually around between 5:30 and 6:00 AM
Dr. Marisol:Yeah, so that's perfect too, right? Because you are like, you're shifting instead of waking up in the morning with a major cortisol, a major stress response, like you're shifting naturally into the flow of the day. And then after your period of prayer, which I think is beautiful, I'm right there on that boat with you and with meditation as well, then you're ready to start like the sunshine into your life, right? and Then you're able to shift your day perfectly. So really it depends on you understanding your system and working with your intuition, because a castor oil pack is also a very spiritual and scientific practice. It truly is both.
Ivelisse Page:Yeah. And so can kids wear'em as well? I know that you have smaller ones there. What have you found with kids?
Dr. Marisol:With children, truly it is the same thing, like the castor oil pack is an excellent tool for anyone along any age category, except if you're pregnant. So the only person who cannot use castor oil packs is those who are pregnant, just because there is always the concern that castor oil, it does move smooth muscle of the intestine, but that's also what helps to move the lymphatic smooth muscle and the circulatory smooth muscles. So it's good for those vessels as well, but we just don't wanna do that when we're pregnant. However, from babies all the way up until teen years and beyond that castor oil packs are excellent because, and especially if you think of like pediatric conditions and problems, like whether it's as severe as cancer, or if it's autism along the spectrum, there the castor oil pack support the child as well too, because the biggest problem with all of the conditions ultimately comes down to circadian rhythm dysfunction. In the literature with regards to cancer, one of the biggest connectors through cancer patients is circadian rhythm dysfunction, especially when it comes to hormonal related cancers. So whatever we can do to improve that sleep, and make it better and help the body shift into the relaxed state. I mean, for you as an example, not that I'm giving medical advice, but for you as an example, just for the listeners having that understanding, another way that you could do the pack is right before you go to bed. So that would be another way that you could shift it around and do it maybe for an hour before you go to bed and take it off and wear it again an hour in the morning when you're doing your prayer, right? That would enhance it even more. And for children, same kind of a thing. We don't recommend typically young children to wear to bed, simply because there's straps. There could be a danger of choking just to be on the safe side. For mama or daddy to do it with your child, and for them to start to learn these practices early on. Because the gift I see in my children is now they have health conditions. They're no longer children, now they're in their twenties. So my children have been indoctrinated with castor oil and for them, their first go-to isn't an aspirin, isn't a Tylenol, isn't anything like that. I remember when my daughter went away to college and she had her first little, you know, having way too much fun on a Friday night and fatty food and drinks and different things. And she called me and she goes, ah, mom, I need my castor oil pack. I forgot my castor oil pack. She was used to having it on command whenever she wanted one mama would provide, and here she is for the first time in her grown up life on her own and she's like, I forgot to pack my castor oil pack. And honestly, that was such a glorious moment for me because I said, wow, the years of nurturing her and showing her and her understanding that her body can do it on its own is that she just needs to move herself into the relaxed state. And we can't, we're not always that, it's not always that easy for us to do it with meditation or prayer. And we do need help because life can get overwhelming and the stress state can get overwhelming, especially with chronic disease. No matter what age you're in child, teenager, young adult, elderly, middle-aged, wherever you are, everyone except you're pregnant can use a castor oil pack to a benefit, and then be able to shift the body and get it to move in a relaxed state and feel better.
Ivelisse Page:Yeah. And so share with us how that works. So how do you apply a castor oil pack in an easy way?
Dr. Marisol:So what I did with the pack, so this by the way I think is design number, I don't know, probably 24 at this point. I have all the different designs, all the different ways we could do the straps, all the different materials that we could have done on the inside, outside. There was just so much, research and development that went into this pack. And actually my very first pack that I launched, back in 2010 when I first was graduating outta school was made of complete organic cotton. But the problem with that was that people didn't love it because it leaked and the oil got everywhere and the big thing for me was when I finally decided, okay, I'm gonna do this castor oil pack. Here I was super, super sick in naturopathic college. I'm convalescent, I can't get out of bed. I'm having to take a semester, at least, off of school. I have either diarrhea or constipation to the extreme. I just do not feel well. And yet I'm doing every supplement, every practitioner, doing every iv, colon hydrotherapy, you name it, I was doing it. And then finally I'm like, okay, that castor oil pack thing, let me do that. But my issue was I didn't want it to be messy, and I wanted it to be clean and easy. So then in order to get the best of both worlds, I ended up coming up with a design, which the inside that touches your skin is organic cotton. So that's great because castor oil, you only wanna use it with organic materials and ideally only organic cotton, organic wool. And there's a reason for this, because castor oil is the master carrier oil, so it grabs onto any chemical or otherwise and will bring it into your body. And so we wanna be careful and we would love to use and choose the Queen of the Thrones Castor Oil Pack because it's designed in the right way because I'm very familiar with the science of the oil and of the cloth that goes with this wonderful self-care practice. There's been over the last year, over 80 competitors, popped up on the market just to give you guys an idea, and they're all doing them with the wrong material. They're doing them with organic bamboo because it's cheaper. They're doing it with cotton velour, which is a mix of cotton with plastic. They're doing it with the wrong types of materials. So it's about being very cautious about what you're doing and going with a trusted brand like Queen of the Thrones. So the inside is cotton flannel, and the outside is what's known as a polyurethane, which is a protective layer. It's the best out of all the plastics. It's still a plastic nonetheless, but it's the best out of all the plastics in terms of less transfer and any problems. And because it's on the outside layer bonded to another organic cotton layer, we feel safe with it and we feel good with it. That being said, we don't heat the pack. We don't apply heat to the pack. We don't wear the pack in the sauna, so that's very important too. All that we do, because we wanted to take away all of the steps, is we simply just take the organic castor oil. Always in the glass bottle, make sure it's in glass. Same reason why you don't wanna carry plastic into your body when you're trying to detox and drain and cleanse. And you apply one to two tablespoons on the pack every time, you blot it, and you simply just place it on your liver and wrap it around with the straps and it's as easy as can be. Within two minutes, you have to pack on your body and you're ready to go.
Ivelisse Page:It really is that simple. And why don't you wanna use it in an infrared sauna?
DrMarisolPodcast:We don't need to add heat to the pack because the pack is designed with that plastic outside layering that it does keep the heat in. In the infrared sauna, as in any big heat modality, there is a risk. And now we don't know this and it's not proven, but I'd rather not chance it. I'd rather have people do an infrared sauna first, or have them do the castor oil pack first, then go into infrared sauna, and then put it on again when they come out. That's a better way to do a protocol with a sauna, which for your audience in cancer treatment is very important because I know like we were doing a lot of infrared sauna with my patients. We just don't wanna risk any kind of transfer of any kind of plastic. And plastic can become volatile. And I'm a healthcare practitioner above and beyond anything, and I care for people and my mission is to help people, not to hurt them. So I just wanna make sure that everyone is just aware of best practices and how I would do it clinically with my patients.
Ivelisse Page:Yes, that's great advice. And another question that we got asked quite a bit, and I think it's because again, parents and grandparents say drink a little bit of castor oil, get your pregnancy moving. Why is wearing the pack better and why shouldn't people just drink the castor oil?
DrMarisolPodcast:I love it. I love it. So here's the thing, is that castor oil on its own is a wonderful oil. Castor oil has five main key benefits. Number one, it's a natural anti-inflammatory. Number two, it's extremely rich in antioxidants, including very important antioxidants like glutathione, right? It helps to recycle glutathione, very important in cancer patients or in prevention of cancer. Not that castor oil packs prevent, but the molecule glutathione when used is supportively used for detoxification, drainage. Other antioxidants is rich in is molecules like quercetin, right? Excellent polyphenols and other essential, other important oils that support our body's ability to function and work better. So that's amazing. So natural antiinflammatory number one, rich in antioxidants, number two. Number three, we remember that castor oil is the master carrier oil. So like it contains the master detoxification agent glutathione. It's also the master carrier oil. So that's the big reason why you don't wanna place it next to any plastic or bottle it in plastic, always in glass, and because it carries everything. But this is a huge benefit actually when it comes to us using other modalities, like essential oils and all those lovely tools that we're using as part of our complete care, whatever it is that we're treating. Then number four, castor oil is a smooth muscle mover, and this is why grandma loved it to move your bowels or to get rid of parasites or to do a good internal cleansing or to get the baby out of the oven was because castor oil moves the smooth muscle, and the genius of this is the smooth muscle is only in certain organs, it's found in the intestine, so that helps you to poo better. It's also found in the uterus, which helps you to birth a baby better and have a better period. And then most importantly smooth muscle is found in the lymphatic vessels and the blood circulatory vessels helping to move toxins out of the different compartments of the body into the areas like the lumen of the intestine so they can all be eliminated out of the body. So that is major with regards to castor oil. And when you take castor oil orally, yes, you'll get that smooth muscle effect, but it'll be mainly in the intestine and in the uterus. And castor oil doesn't necessarily absorb through the body and you're limited the amount of dose that you can actually take of castor oil because you will, you could have a life threatening diarrhea. I mean, listen to this story. In fascist Italy, Mussolini used to use castor oil as a torture tool for the captive soldiers. Imagine? And then there's one more amazing benefit to castor oil. To review natural anti-inflammatory rich in excellent antioxidants like the master cleanser, glutathione, a wonderful master carrier oil, it moves the important smooth muscle of the blood vessels, lymphatic system, digestive tract, and uterus. And then the the cherry on top is the fact that castor oil balances the microbiome and any patient dealing with any chronic condition, one of the forefront actions that we're looking for as clinicians is to help the microbiome function better. Because the microbiome is what signals proper immune system function. The microbiome regulates so many processes in our body. The microbiome helps our mind think better and clearer. I mean, the microbiome ensures tight junctions in the gut instead of having leaky gut, microbiome also supports healthy brain barrier balance as well too. The microbiome is of the utmost importance and castor oil supports the balance of that. Now when add those benefits in with the castor oil pack, remember when you take it orally, you just can't get all those same benefits. And topically it's not absorbed as well as it could be. It's made much better and augmented probably by about 50% when you use the castor oil pack with it, because the castor oil pack will shift the body into the relaxed state, opening up all the systems so that they can work better. And then they have now the added bonus of the push and the support from the castor oil.
Ivelisse Page:That's fantastic. And interestingly, last week I was with another technician and she said, you should put that on your eyebrows and eyelashes because it also helps with eyebrow and eyelash growth. And I was like, wow, a natural way to grow your lashes without using some of those toxic things that are out there to grow them.
DrMarisolPodcast:Well, this is interesting, as we know anyone who's dealing with a chronic disease, whether it be cancer or autoimmunity, there's many factors that have come into play that have affected their health. There's also common symptoms of the experience. Hair loss is one of them. Lessening and thinning of eyebrows are others. Now, the a big connector within all those conditions is exposure to mold. And mold is like yeast that grows on eyebrows, eyelashes, hair, all over the skin, right? Mold is a situation that we're dealing with when we're dealing with cancer patients and autoimmune patients, and beauty impacts of mold environmentally, our hair loss and skin problem. And we have a castle beauty sleep kit, which you apply the castor oil much like you do to the liver pack on the actual little eye compress and place it on your eyes to go to sleep, not only, and you can add extra for your eyebrows, your eyelashes, and around your eyes for the beauty aspects. But not only does it act like a weighted blanket for your eyes, naturally stimulating melatonin very important in cancer care holistically, it naturally augments it, but on top of it, it balances the microbiome around the hair follicle. It enhances lymphatic drainage and circulation to the areas that have the hair, and it does all those wonderful things like add nourishing nutrients and antioxidants, reduce inflammation. It just does so many great things for so many parts of our bodies that from both a cosmetic perspective and a self-care perspective. I mean, my biggest line these days beyond saying it's the first thing that I pack in my luggage is I wish I could bathe in it because how do I figure out a pack that I can just like bathe in it?
Ivelisse Page:Yeah, that is just fascinating and I'm just so grateful for the time that you've given us today to share all about castor oil and your amazing packs. We will put links in the show notes for people to find you and more information in regards to your packs and even your website so that they can gain more information than what we've shared today. But thank you so much Dr. Marisol about sharing your time with us today, and we're so grateful.
DrMarisolPodcast:Thank you so much, Ivelisse, this has been a wonderful experience and I hope the best to all of the listeners, you're all in my prayers and I'm right there with you. I understand your journey and I'm here to help. Thank you.
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