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101 - Jordan Oliver - Drafted, Take Your Position in the Army of God

• Ivelisse Page & Jordan Oliver • Season 4 • Episode 101

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Are you ready to strengthen your faith and activate the power of the Holy Spirit in your daily life? 

In this inspiring episode, Ivelisse  sits down with her dear friend, author, and spiritual coach Jordan Oliver, to talk about her book DRAFTED: You’ve Been Chosen for a War Already Won.

Jordan opens up about her personal health journey, her prophetic ministry Triple Braided Cord Company, and how joy and balance are key weapons in life’s toughest spiritual battles. 

Together, Ivelisse and Jordan explore how to recognize the Holy Spirit’s voice, engage in spiritual warfare with confidence, and find practical ways to activate divine power in everyday moments.

Whether you’re walking through a season of uncertainty, facing illness, or simply longing for a deeper connection with God, this episode will uplift and equip you with the tools to stand strong in faith. You’ll walk away reminded that you were chosen—and that the battle has already been won.


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Ivelisse Page:

Hi, I am Ivelisse Page and thanks for listening to the Believe Big podcast, the show where we take deep dive into your healing with health experts, integrative practitioners, biblical faith leaders, and cancer thrivers from around the globe. Welcome to today's episode on the Believe Big podcast. My name is Ivelisse Page and I am so thankful to spend this time with you. Today on the Believe Big podcast, we welcome my good friend and author, Jordan Oliver. Jordan is a 28-year-old author, speaker, and spiritual coach based in Baltimore, Maryland. She graduated from High Point University with a double major in communications and religion. After four years of working at a Catholic girls school in Maryland, she became a certified spiritual coach through the I Coach Life in Nashville, Tennessee. Jordan, co-founded Triple Braided Cord Company, a prophetic ministry focused on intercessory prayer and healing alongside her sisters, Madison and Taylor. The ministry aims to equip individuals with knowledge about the Holy Spirit, encouraging activation through surrender, obedience, and recognizing God's voice in everyday life. Man, we need that. We need more of that. In addition to her ministry work, Jordan is a freelance writer and web designer. She also hosts a weekly show, the Olive Press, where she delves into topics like spiritual warfare and hearing God's voice. Her book DRAFTED: You've Been Chosen for a War Already Won, the Battle is to Believe It, serves as a call to action for believers to recognize their role in the spiritual battles and to activate the Holy Spirit within them. The book emphasizes that every battle has already been won through faith. Jordan's passion lies in helping others discover their spiritual purpose and empowering them to live a victorious life through faith. Welcome to the show, Jordan!

Jordan Oliver:

Oh, hi ivelisse. Thank you so much for having me. I am just, it's truly an honor to be here. I know we've talked about this for a while, going back and forth with each other's shows, so to finally be here. It's, uh, it's amazing. I'm so excited.

Ivelisse Page:

Yeah. Well this is a treat for us as well. I am so excited to talk about your book and for anyone listening, we will put a link in our show notes so that you can gain access to it after the episode. So, but before we start our, uh, podcast, we always love to know what our guest's favorite health tip is, and so do you have one that you can share with us?

Jordan Oliver:

Yes, I do Ivelisse, and for mine, I, this tip is a little bit more emotional slash spiritual, and it's something that I really, I really learned when I was actually going through a physical health journey. I've had such a journey with food allergies. I don't know, you might not even know that. I don't know if I've ever told you that, but it has been for so many years of I didn't know. I didn't know it at first, and then I really started getting sick and could never had these problems, so I couldn't pinpoint it right away. It has been about an eight year journey, and I'm so happy to say that finally I feel like I'm coming into the fruition of my healing and have been able to figure it out. But along the way it was very difficult. And one of the things that my sisters actually really, they helped me and my family, I'd say, uh, really my family, but really help put emphasis on was the importance of fun. Okay. And this might sound really, some people might say, why to win the world does that mean? But as we get older, and especially being in ministry and in the line of healing work and even prayer with intercessor, intercessory prayer, there's a lot of heaviness to it. And I know you, I don't need to tell you Ivelisse, you get it. But with that, I was really was not making a lot of time for fun things. And my sisters would say, Jordan, you have to watch a show that's just light at night. Don't be in all of this heaviness all the time. And honestly, Ivelisse when I started intentionally doing that. I really came to know that verse in Nehemiah, where it says The joy of the Lord is our strength. And the joy, I really see that now as such a weapon that joy is not just something that is just this happiness. Oh, oh, we get to be joy. It's a weapon of warfare that God gives us to literally fight battles that we're in. And so I would say that's my health tip, is to make sure that you are being intentional about creating space for joy and fun things in your life that ultimately brings balance. It's really about living a balanced life, and that's one of the ways we can do that. So

Ivelisse Page:

I love that. And I don't think anyone has ever shared that before, and I think that it's so important. You know, I think one of the things when I was going through my cancer journey that I tried to do was to laugh, to eliminate the heaviness of the noise from the news and other things that were bringing me down, to focus on God's capabilities. And, and he wants us to have joy and fun. And, uh, most recently though, I got a rebounder, um, and I have it here in my office. So I'm on the phone a lot or you know, talking and, and doing work. And so in between those calls I'll go and jump on the trampoline and I'm laughing. Okay.'cause it's good for our lymphatic system, but it's also good to make you feel like a kid again and just laughing and smiling. So I love that you shared that tip.

Jordan Oliver:

That is so neat, Ivelisse I just saw that pop up on one of my Instagram, you know, the reels. They'd come up and I saw this rebounding for the first time. I didn't even know what that was and I thought. That looks awesome. So I cannot believe you are bringing that up. I think I might be trying that out now. You're helping me think maybe that's one thing I'm gonna try. It looks really fun.

Ivelisse Page:

Yeah, we actually, um, have them on our store now, so if anyone's interested, they could go to the Believe Big store. And we have two professional grade ones because just a side note, the ones on Amazon may be cheaper. But they have the metal springs and they might not be as good for your joints and not as safe, um, as far as balance. So ours have been proven to be safe and effective for not only personal training purposes, but also for patients. And we, you can even get a handle for it if you feel like you might lose your balance. But it is fantastic for so many health benefits.

Jordan Oliver:

Awesome. Awesome. I'm gonna go right on your store and look for it there. That makes it easy. I know right where to go. That's awesome.

Ivelisse Page:

Well, I'm so excited to talk about your book today. It, it just has so much significance, not only for those who are on their cancer journey, but, for everyone. Yeah. And so how did your own spiritual battles shape the message behind the book?

Jordan Oliver:

You know, what Ivelisse, what's so funny about this and, and just so proof of God and just that the Holy Spirit and his plans for us is that, honestly, when I started this I did not even think it was really gonna be an actual book. And I say that because I started this back in 2013, the year I graduated college. And my bio, I should have updated my age in that'cause it's in, even in my bio on the book says 28, I am now 33. Just to, just to show how many years have gone by. I never have updated that, but I just, I like to say that too, and always emphasize the years, because this has been such a long process that God keeps continuing. And I think in our culture today, there's such, we are known as the microwave generation because of how quickly we get everything. But this has been for a long process and God keeps unfolding it, and unfolding it and unfolding it. And so when I started writing this book, it was 2013, the year I graduated college and I had in my mind that I was gonna just create a gift because I love to write as a hobby always. I was gonna write a book for my brother, Cameron, my youngest brother. I'm the oldest of four. My sisters, Madison and Taylor are the twins. We're the ones who started the ministry. But we have a younger brother, Cameron. And so. I would make gifts as hobbies, and even for Madison and Taylor when they graduated eighth grade, I remember writing Inside Scoop: Only Things a Sister Could Tell, and it was like a scrapbook with writings to survive high school. And I always thought I would be more inspirational. Not really, always faith-based, but I never thought the direction in ministry God's taken me. I thought I'd be more inspirational, motivational speaker or writer. So I did little books like that. And so when Cameron's turn came to graduate eighth grade, I said, well, I can't leave him out just because he's a boy. And, but I thought, how am I gonna relate to writing for a guy? And honestly I think that is what God used to give me this drafted army theme to the book. And at first his book was gonna be inspirational quotes of athletes, and he's really big into surfing. So surfers, I was trying to relate to him. And then as I started writing and I remember, and you'll being from Maryland living here for a time, you'll, you'll know this. I remember really being drawn to Ray Lewis from the Baltimore Ravens, his story, and he is just, he speaks so much about his faith and I was transcribing for the, that was gonna be the opening of my book. I was transcribing one of his talks of when he came to know God and then that is so comical when I think back to that and what God did over years. That that began 2013 and for seven years I just I kept writing and God just kept giving me, as I was really starting to dive into faith and getting in the Word, then I would just get more and more, and I realized this is becoming more of a teaching book. Not so much, it is inspirational, but it's more teaching the word and really God was taking me to go back to your question of my own spiritual battles and my own spiritual life, how it came into this. Honestly, as I was on my own spiritual journey, I was writing it and it was being captured in this book. It wasn't like I went through the battles and then wrote about it. This was being birthed as I was learning myself and walking through the spiritual journey, and I think that's why it took seven years. It took so long to get out, but, as I look back at it now, and this is what's so fascinating. I remember when I, when I first got it in the mail, the published version, I was, you wouldn't think this, but I, I actually felt a little disappointed because it looked so small to me. It's a thin book. It's not big at all, and it is a shorter book, but I thought of all the work and all the years and it looked so small. And to me, because it was more of my beginning journey, it seemed simple to me compared to some of the experiences I started having later on the journey. And my family said, Jordan, this is exactly what it is supposed to be, because you cannot speak to most people on their spiritual journey when they're beginning. You can't start with all of these supernatural testimonies and diving so deep into the spirit. You have to begin at the beginning, right at the beginning. And that is what, why I could see what, how God designed it, why he had me capturing everything from the beginning, because I don't know if I could really go back and get it the way I did as I was walking through it. So. I don't know if that, I hope that answers your question, Ivelisse. But my battles in life, the deeper battles actually started coming a little later in my walk even after this, even as I was kind of taken deeper, but all the foundation was set up. I love that for, for the beginning of it, if that makes sense.

Ivelisse Page:

A hundred percent. And you know, it's funny because sometimes, like you said, oh my goodness, I was disappointed it with such a small book, but I think, the size, you know, and the word count and all of that, the impact, you never know how it's gonna affect others. And, and I say that in the sense of Jimmy, my husband Jimmy's One Word book, like you can read it in 45 minutes. And the impact that a small concept can have on a life. So your concept of, you know, what is faith? How, how do I practically engage with the Holy Spirit? Because those are things that are, are things that people hear about, but then to try and practically explain that in a simple version. Yes. I love that your book does that. So for those who are listening and who may have not read your book yet, can you just briefly share the spiritual warfare may be a new idea for them. So how would you explain what it means to be in a spiritual battle on a daily basis? What does that mean for an individual?

Jordan Oliver:

So I always, one of the founding verses behind Triple Braided Cord, the ministry. So I set up this ministry, Triple Braided Cord Co with my sisters'cause it's three of us. And we were led to the verse from Ecclesiastes 4:12, the chord of three strands. Many people may know that from wedding verses, it's commonly used there, but it's just really talking about the strength we get from unity and especially unity with God most importantly. And so we learned as God was having us form that and stepping into the spiritual because we established that because the Lord led us into healing ministry through prayer, prayerfully, people just started coming to us for prayer. We started getting messages in our own prayer time through the, the Holy Spirit, just receiving messages of healing for individuals. And we realized, oh, when we're sharing these things people are experiencing, whether it's physical healings or emotional healings, they're, they're experiencing this, so it must be God at work. And we really were led to the verse in the Bible that explains to us that we do not fight things of flesh and blood on this earth, but we fight rulers in the heavenly, the principalities and forces in the unseen world. And what this really summarizes is that life is not all what we see it to be. It's not all just physical, that there is very much a spiritual component that parallels a lot of what we experience. A lot of the evil in the world, the good in the world, all of it. There is a spiritual component and so that is really, when I use the term spiritual warfare, what I mean is that we go, if we look at a situation like illness can be one example. And not all the time, I do wanna make this clear. I do not believe that every situation is spiritual because we live in a fallen world with chemicals and very real imbalances in our, in our, that can happen in our body. So there's very much a physical, real part of the physical, but sometimes there's a spiritual component of, of things in the, in the spiritual world that we can be dealing with. And so when I say spiritual warfare, that's what I mean for us in our ministry. People will come to us a lot of times and what I've experienced in my life is that when I'm facing certain situations, sometimes God will reveal to me his perspective or a deeper insight and say, you're not dealing with the physical thing. This has to do in the spiritual, and I'm gonna help you through the power of the Holy Spirit reveal to you strategies of how we conquer and use that power of the Spirit to fight these things, so that they can manifest in the physical. Yes. So I, I hope that's clear for anybody who may never have heard this before, because it is an abstract concept and it's, it's a little difficult'cause we can't, when we talk about the spiritual, it's not something we physically see, but that's what it means.

Ivelisse Page:

Yeah. I feel like it's, it's something that people hear a lot about angels, right? Yes. And you. And you. We believe in angels. Yes. And many times it's harder for people to believe that there is a demonic influence and that the devil is real. And yes, that there are demons around trying to make us fail and discourage and throw those arrows of doubt and discouragement. Yes. Especially going through a cancer journey. And I, Jordan. I can give you a perfect example of that is I remember when I was going through my first battle with cancer and I was getting ready for bed, and I would say that this mental and spiritual battle was harder than the physical battle of cancer at the time. And I remember I was washing my face and I heard this voice, not audibly, but it, I just heard it in my spirit and it said, why are you bothering? You're not gonna survive this year. Your dad didn't survive. Why? Who do you think you are? That you're gonna survive? Oh, you're not gonna see your daughters get married, or your sons graduate, and all these awful messages kept coming over and flooding my mind. Yes. And I just began to cry and I just became paralyzed with fear. And thank goodness that Jimmy saw this. And that's actually where the"I Will Have No Fear" prayer came to be for Believe Big. Jimmy compiled our favorite verses of fear and he put it into that poem and it's now goes into every single Believe Mug that Believe Big distributes. And I'm telling you that when those thoughts would return, I would immediately pull out that card because sometimes you're just frozen. Yes. Like I had been a Christian since I had been 13 years old and I was 37 at the time, and I couldn't even think of how to pray to get rid of that discouragement. I, I was just like, Jesus, help me. That's the only thing I could say. Yes. And. After that I pulled out Jimmy's,"I Will Have No Fear" prayer and I would just start to read it. Sometimes I would read it once a day. Sometimes I would read it 10 times a day. But I will tell you that at the moment that I finish that prayer,'cause it's all a hundred percent God's word and I spoke it out loud. It's important to speak it out loud. Yes. So they can hear. Yes. It's immediately the only thing that removed that fear and brought peace was his word. Mm. And so that was like an actual battle that yes, I know many cancer patients and other people face, whether it's illness or discouragement or a marriage issue or whatever things with your children, um, God's word has the power to break those strongholds from the enemy. And, um, I would encourage everyone to download it for free. If you just need a,"I Will Have No Fear" prayer. It's on our website for free that anyone can print off.

Jordan Oliver:

Oh, Ivelisse, I have chills hearing as you were saying that I was getting chills. And you know what you're making me think of. When I was preparing after writing, Drafted, I had a little, my first conference, this was, this must have been back in 2022. It was right after the COVID, you know, the outbreak of that. And things were starting to open up. So I said, all right, I'm gonna try my first Drafted conference. And as I was preparing, God just started me taking me now even deeper and share, you know, coming up with new thoughts that aren't in the book. And one of the things he showed me was the Armor of God. And he said, look at this armor. Only, there's only one offensive for offense. Peace. And you may have heard this, and the audience may, but it's the sword. The sword, and it's the spirit again, the Holy Spirit, the sword of the spirit. But then it says, what is the sword? The word of God. And this is exactly what you are saying. I mean, it goes with your story using that word. This is why I feel such a passion for this topic of the Holy Spirit, and that's what I say, I say in a nutshell, Drafted is Holy Spirit 1 0 1, and I have come to love and appreciate everything in this since that time I opened it up and thought it was too small. I have really come to know, get outta the way Jordan. Let God do his thing because he knows what he's doing, of course. It's so simple, but it is all the power is in this message of the spirit, and I think, I really believe Ivelisse, that this is why I believe the enemy, Satan has had his greatest, tactic has been to keep the Holy Spirit away from God's people to stifle knowledge of what it is because it is the power. The word is the power, and we have Jesus. It only comes from Jesus. None of it's coming from us. But when we gain understanding of the power and authority that we have, when we believe in everything he died to give us, and that we know we are vessels of that spirit and can live with it, that death conquering spirit. Well, the enemy's time is gonna be done when, when the body awakens to that power. And that is why I think Satan has worked over time to keep people away from really understanding the depth of what this is and what we carry because of what Jesus did for us. And it's that sword. It is that offensive power that literally enables us to cut through, slice through the doubts, the fears, everything you just said in your story. Because really, I, I do think a lot of the battlefield is in our mind and in our thoughts too, and that's what, you know, I, I don't know. Do you think that, that that's where most of the battle lies is in our beliefs? Yes. And thoughts.

Ivelisse Page:

Yeah. And, and what we're seeing with our eyes, you know, it's almost like they say that our eyes are the opening to our souls. Yes. And so it's really important to, to monitor what you're watching, what you're reading, what you're listening to. Yes.'cause it does affect our souls.

Jordan Oliver:

Yes it does.

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Ivelisse Page:

For someone who may not fully understand the Holy Spirit, and you know, in your book you call him the helper in battle, how can someone begin to activate or tune into the Holy Spirit more intentionally.

Jordan Oliver:

So I always like to direct people to simplicity and everyday lies. And again, this is so comical coming from me because I am the least, when I try to explain stuff, people's, oh, I will just, my sisters or family will be like, we don't understand a thing you're saying, Jordan, you need to bring this down. But I've learned to simplify things. That is Jesus tells us, make it, we should be making the the gospel message, and when we share his word as simple, that a child can understand it. And we have really over complicated this Holy Spirit, I believe. And I believe that's part of why it's not as understood or we don't know as much about it, but basically, it's so simple that I look at the Holy Spirit as God in us, and I write that I break down the Trinity, Father, Son, and Spirit and just how God shows it to me. That God I kind of view as creator of all. He's the big God, the one who's up, you know over everything. Jesus is God on earth. We have an example when we look to Jesus of what God looks like, like a human living. Basically what a person can look like with a divine spirit connected in them to a divine father. We have that example through Jesus of what we can look like. And then the spirit is God in us. And so really we just have to realize that, number one, when we sincerely believe in Jesus as that he is, when we make Him the Lord of our life and in our heart, we're sincere in that belief that Jesus, I believe in you, as my king, my God, my Lord. The Bible tells us that his spirit does come within us. We get that gift from him, so it's in us. So no one needs to be worried. I have a lot of people come up and they're saying, I don't know if I have the spirit. And I say, whoa, okay. This is nothing to be afraid of. Simple. If we believe in Jesus, the spirit is in you, but the difference of what I'm talking about is now we're gonna try to activate that spirit. How do we go from keeping it dormant and just inside to living a life where we're using its active power? And going back to the simple ways that, that we do this. I remember one of the first times that. God really started taking me deeper into hearing his voice and activating that spirit. I was at college and I was walking back from my dorm room and one night, and it was nighttime and I was coming back from the library and this butterfly flew next to me, Ivelisse in the nighttime. This is what was a little different, but when it flew next to me at night, I just had this feeling, and I don't know how to explain it, but it was a knowing that the presence of God was, was there. And all he did from that moment on the Lord used that butterfly, something that simple to get my attention. And so from that moment on, when I would see a butterfly or it would come up to me somehow, you know, you see a picture of one or one flies, you know, in front of you at a very particular moment in time, I would start recognizing this is how God, God is using this thing to get my attention to say, pay attention. Wake up, I'm speaking to you. So I started noticing I would just use that, the butterfly symbol when it would appear, I'd say, all right, who am I talking to right now? What am I, what are my thoughts right now? Where am I? Is God trying to speak something to me? And I, I love that example because honestly, that was one of the first things he used to really get me into the practice and discipline of recognizing the pattern of his voice. And it is gonna be in the simplest everyday ways, right where you're planted with the people who are around you. With a butterflies, it could be as simple as that, that these are the ways that we start where we begin to just open our eyes and our ears to say, okay. Could God be communicating something to me? But honestly, Ivelisse, this is a journey. Some people do have instant radical experiences with the spirit, and they have radical stories, but I think more of us than not, it's a journey God wants to take and a relationship, a personal relationship Jesus wants to establish with us and just like all of our relationships. It's not one way. You can't, you can't be, have one person doing all the talking or that relationship is gonna die the same as with God. He doesn't want you just talking at him all the time, treating him like a genie in a bottle with our prayers, telling him everything we want. We need to stop and learn to listen. And this all happens, I believe, through the, the communication line, the Holy Spirit. He wants us to listen to him. We have to develop that and practice that. And so that's what I encourage people with the beginnings of stepping into activating the spirit is look at your everyday surroundings right where you're planted, and ask God with the most simple prayer. Lord. I don't understand all this. I don't even know if you can speak to me, be so honest with him and just say, but would you speak to me and would you open my eyes so I can hear you in the smallest way? And he will, when you ask. It might not happen immediately, but I believe he will show up to you and one step leads to the next.

Ivelisse Page:

100%, and I think it's, I think what you shared is very important is when we're asking or when we're speaking to him to take notice of things that are happening. Sometimes we're just moving through life so quickly. Yes. That we don't take the time to evaluate what's happening in our lives. And you know, an example of that in my life has been when, uh, again, when I was going through cancer and trying to decide the avenue of treatment that, uh, I was gonna go through. Jimmy and I laid everything before the Lord, and we just prayed. Everyone was trying to give us advice on all these things, but you know, we have to be our own advocates. You know, the Holy Spirit will speak to us and will open the doors that need to be opened and close the doors that need to be closed when we ask. But we have to take notice. And I think that's one of the important things that you shared. And I'll never forget that during that week that I was really praying for direction to people from two different walks of life. Told me that I had to speak to the same doctor, Dr. Hinberger, who at the time was my mistletoe doctor, and I was like. Okay, there's something there. Yes. I need to take note. Yes. Yes. And, and so I made that appointment and that's when I found out about mistletoe therapy and changed the trajectory of my life. So yes, pray, but then listen, don't just speed through life. I love that you shared that.

Jordan Oliver:

And and writing it down, Ivelisse, this is something are, do you journal a lot?

Ivelisse Page:

Yes. Yes.

Jordan Oliver:

Okay. You do too. And I am the same way. But what I realize this is, I tell people now, I really think you have to, that this is when we are trying to learn God's voice. I think this is a necessary key to doing it because I would never even remember. You think you're gonna remember things and you really do not. And I will go back in my journal and see certain things. There are pieces to the puzzle and they, and when you write it down, and especially writing dates and times, God communicates through everything, time, numbers, he can use a lot. And I remember starting to notice a pattern in my journal entries. That on days where I was getting messages from the Lord or feeling just in tune that day, you know, with him. A lot of my journal entries were on days with sevens in them. Yeah. And seven is such a biblical number of completion. Yeah. So another thing God used, and again, not that we're worshiping these things or putting our faith in these, you know, objects, it's everything God uses in our world to help us recognize his voice and pattern. So I would know, okay, on day on, you know, certain days with sevens when, when they were coming up 17th, the seventh, I would just, I was attuned. I just tuned in more and sometimes he just wants us to tune in more, so he'll use something to help redirect our focus to that. And it really, it really is, it's like training, it's bootcamp. If we're talking in our military terms. You have to, and like weightlifting, you lift the 10 pounds before you get to the 20 to the 30. It's all builds upon each other. And so recognizing and being aware, but journaling is, is a way that we can do that. So I encourage everyone to write, write, write. Even if you think it's a tiny little thing.

Ivelisse Page:

Yeah, I love that. You know, I can't believe our, our time has already, you know, come to, come to an end. But I would love for you to share one final encouragement for those people who are listening today, who feel weary, you know, in their current circumstances, uh, whether it's cancer or not, in their spiritual battle and unsure of the strength to continue. What would you say to them today?

Jordan Oliver:

I would say that I, what I have found and a lot through my health battles, thank God I did not have to face something like cancer. So I cannot even fathom. But some of the health issues were definitely really deep, really big things. And so every time, what really got me through that was pushing in and pressing in, literally warring with God. I think the biggest misconception is that the people we see, like you, Ivelisse, you're such a, a pillar of strength. You're out there. You're such an example for everybody. When you're, when we see people speaking and looking confident with their faith, it really, it's not just because you're an anointed person. There, there are anointings, but God wants to speak and have that relationship with every single one of us. And it's honestly, I believe the ones you see speaking, they have fought the fear. They have gone through everything they've just pressed through anyway. They haven't let it stop them. And so I, what got me through was battling, warring a lot and going to God and saying. God, I'm not gonna leave here. I'm not leaving this floor getting on my knees until you show me something from your perspective. Would you give me a revelation? Would you speak something to my heart or to my spirit, or to my mind that is going to help me see this situation in this battle? Not as a victim, but as a victor, from your perspective? And I believe there's a higher purpose to this, that you're trying to use it in my life. To convey something to me that's gonna be part of my purpose, that I'm gonna be able to share with other people. And that mindset, I truly believe is what enabled me to just walk through each battle and to ultimately you know, not let it take me out. Not let it take you out, but allows you to keep going with hope. And so press in. Don't wait on God. I guess the whole message is really like, don't wait on God to come to you. Go to him and press in. And it's okay to to be, to be urgent about it and say, Lord, I'm not leaving till I get something. And we war for that. I'm telling you, he, I, I, I believe that when we go before him, sincerely, he is gonna break through and, and show up and reveal something to you that's gonna give you that endurance to keep believing and keep standing.

Ivelisse Page:

100%. Man, that was so well said. Jordan, thank you so much for taking time today to share about Drafted and spiritual warfare and the activation of the Holy Spirit, and how it can practically be effective in each of our lives whether we're going through a difficult battle like cancer or in an everyday life. So thank you for taking time out of your busy schedule to be with us today, and we're just so grateful for you.

Jordan Oliver:

Oh, thank you Ivelisse. Truly, it truly is an honor and I just am so grateful for the opportunity. So thank you. I. If you enjoyed this episode and you'd like to help support our podcast, please subscribe and share it with others. Be sure to visit believebig.org to access the show notes and discover our bonus content. Thanks again and keep Believing Big!